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Burton vs. Ride
#16
Trader97 Wrote:It didn't even take much "research". go burton.com, click on bindings..show all. you can write down all pricing within 5 minutes. same for ride.

Its not about proving him wrong. It's about getting the right information on the boards.

I somehow get to slack off at work and post on message boards for entertainment.

Good try though =P

nice Trader, I might sticky this thread in the reviews section.
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#17
Trader97 Wrote:I’m sorry that you wasted so much doing horrible comparisons.
BTW, only board worth mention on Ride line is Timeless. Any other board comparison is fairly useless. And I’m not sure what you can compare Timeless to…maybe T1? Custom X? I’m seriously not sure.

Please note all prices below are 2005/2006 prices.

Burton Line of Bindings
C60 350.00
P1 Carbon 280.00
P1 260.00
Cartel OLS 260.00
Cartel LTD 260.00
Cartel 210.00
Ducat 200.00
Mission 180.00
Custom Ltd 160.00
Custom 140.00
Freestyle 100.00
SI(Step-in) N/A

Burton Woman Line
Escapade 210.00
Lexa 180.00
Stiletto 140.00

Ride Line of Bindings
Mig 280.00
Team 260.00
Tomcat 240.00
Tomcat DFC 240.00
SPI 200.00
SPI DFC 200.00
SX DFC 180.00
EX 170.00
LX 130.00
LS 110.00
Freestyle 100.00
SI(Step-in) N/A

Ride Woman Line
DVa 200.00
VXn 160.00
LSh 110.00


First of all, Burton ONLY has ONE more selection in comparison to Ride’s binding line up(Excluding Step in as Ride didn’t bother with it). I’ll go on with head to head comparison…read on…

Woman – Head to Head
Lets start with womans comparison since they only have 3 product lines. Unfortunately I can’t comment on how good these bindings are, but if we assume that similar price has similar performance…Burton is charing more for their product. WINNER: RIDE


Now with Man’s product. I personally have ridden(meaning 5 snow days or more, 40 hours) the following burton and Ride products. Burton: C60, P1 Carbon, P1, Cartel OLS, Mission, Custom. Ride: Mig, Team, Tomcat, SPI, Ex, Lx

- C60 and Migs are almost Identical. Both Bindings are Light, Stiff and very responsive. C60 costs 70 dollars more. WINNER: RIDE

- P1 Carbon are closest to the Tomcats DFC in Ride line. Stiffness, response and weight are very similar. P1 Carbon Cost 40 dollars more. WINNER: RIDE

- P1 and Tomcats…Same deal as P1 Carbon and Tomcats DFC. Note, Tomcats is lighter than P1. Tomcats still cost 20 less… WINNER: RIDE

- Cartel OLS is very similar to Team. Both are the same price WINNER: TIED

Rest of the Burton and Ride lines do not have much similarities so it’s hard to compare them. I’ll just compare them as per their line up lvl within each respective companies. You’ll see most Burton product costs more.

SPi and Cartel are probably the most comparible to each other as they are the med/high end line for both companies. I’m not sure what is SO special about the limited edition of Burton line ups but they sure do cost a lot more. FYI - DFC is Ride’s special edition.

Cartel LTD 260.00 SPI DFC 200.00 WINNER: RIDE
Cartel 210.00 SPI 200.00 WINNER: RIDE

Ducat and SX DFC are the 2 “special” line ups from each company.
Ducat 200.00 SX DFC 180.00 WINNER: RIDE

Winner Ride Again, but binding sux imo.
Mission 180.00 EX 170.00 WINNER: RIDE

LMAO, why make a limited edition of such a pos binding? Oh, more money!!!
Custom Ltd 160.00 Loser: Burton, reason stated above.

More junk bindings…
Custom 140.00 LX 130.00 WINNER: RIDE
Freestyle 100.00 LS 110.00 WINNER: First Win for Burton, Lets have a party!!!

So in summary, Burton bindings are much more expansive than Ride. Low end Binding prices are similar in price but Burton still adds the extra 10 dollars to make more profit. Burton has 1 extra product because of the stupid limited edition for a low end binding…wtf?

MORAL OF STORY - TRY THE GEAR BEFORE YOU POST COMMENTS ON THEM. DO YOUR RESEARCH CORRECTLY INSTEAD OF HALF ASSLY. YOU CAN NOT GET THE SAME QUALITY PRODUCT FOR THE SAME PRICE.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Kudos Eric, and I agree 100%.

I've seen asd's "data" 3 or 4 times now, and I'm sick of it. Dude, you cannot get the same quality with Burton as you can with Ride (or any other company) for the same price.

YES Burton is a good company. NO, they are not the best. YES, they overpricer their gear. Come on bro, I'm not saying Burton sucks, I'm just saying you can get equipment just as good, if not better, for less money from other companies. You're paying just to have the word Burton on your board.

You can only compare Burton and Ride with bindings. How about Burton vs. Rome? Burton vs. Never Summer? Burton would be absolutely destoyed. I've ridden many many boards, and the Rome Machine is the best all mountain freestyle mid-wide board I've ever ridden. It was only $389 brand new! That same board with the Burton logo on it would easily be $600.

Its a futile arguement, trust me.
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#18
whoever said ride only has one good board isa idiot the dh is the best board i have ever ridden
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#19
Humpy412 Wrote:whoever said ride only has one good board isa idiot the dh is the best board i have ever ridden

DH is a good board but in the park boards competition, there are many many, better boards out there. But this is just my opinion as well as you could have your own. But please do refrain from the name calling because imo, it discredits your opinion. Thanks!
__________Eric__________
05/06 - Arbor A-Frame (62)
03/04 - Ride Flight Migs
03/04 - Salomon F24

04/05 - Salomon Era (58)

06/07 - Ride DH (55)
06/07 - Ride Beta
06/07 - DC Judge
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#20
Humpy412 Wrote:whoever said ride only has one good board isa idiot the dh is the best board i have ever ridden

They have a couple good boards and a few decent boards, but when you compare Ride boards to all the other top of the line boards out there...one of the only boards in the Ride line up that stands up to the competition is the Timeless. I think Ride's strong point is their bindings.
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#21
jjyank Wrote:They have a couple good boards and a few decent boards, but when you compare Ride boards to all the other top of the line boards out there...one of the only boards in the Ride line up that stands up to the competition is the Timeless. I think Ride's strong point is their bindings.

I ride an 05/06 Timeless. It is one of their best boards, also VERY good is the 05/06 NO. 4
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#22
I found the difference between people like me and people like trader97 and jjyank and jam*wil

me- looks for mid quality performance that costs less. likes plastic, 14 without a job.

trader97,jjyank,jam*wil - looks for highend performance and less cost. likes aluminum, 18 or so with jobs and money.


I don't have 280 to spend on bindings. I don't have a job so I will be saving all summer (cutting grass) for a snowboard. I don't want to spend over $200for bindings, and around $300 for a board. (I have good boots) Ride boards are out of the question since i geuss the only good one (timeless) is around $500 so I'm looking for other cheaper brands.

I'm looking for midquality products where Burton and Ride are the same. (well from what I've seen Burton is better than ride) I was talking to some people on the hill yesterday here goes part of our convo :

Me) how do you like those bindings?
person with ride exs) I got them at the beginning of the year and they've slipped a few times on me
Me) oh that sucks.

next:

Me) how do you like those bindings?
ride lxs) this is my first time with them so I can't say too much.
Me) oh

(those cost more than burton customs and I've heard the customs are good and have ridden them and they feel great)
next:

Me) how do you like those bindings?
Burton Missions) I love em, pretty cheap and they feel so comfortable and I like the buckles.
Me) yeah i'm probably gunna get those soon
Burton Missions) yeah you should their a good binding.

Mid quality - Burton probably beats Ride. (from what I've heard(on this site also) and seen)

(hope this helps with the sticky)
We stand sideways. We sleep on floors. We get up early and go to sleep late. We've been mocked. We've been turned away by cops that won't have us. We are relentless. We dream it, we make it, we break it, we fix it. We create. We destroy. We wreck ourselves day in and day out and yet we stomp that one trick or find that one line that keeps us coming back.We progress. WE SNOWBOARD
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#23
asd Wrote:I found the difference between people like me and people like trader97 and jjyank and jam*wil

me- looks for mid quality performance that costs less. likes plastic, 14 without a job.

trader97,jjyank,jam*wil - looks for highend performance and less cost. likes aluminum, 18 or so with jobs and money.

Mid quality - Burton probably beats Ride. (from what I've heard(on this site also) and seen)

(hope this helps with the sticky)

You are right, I'm 27 making pretty decent money. I totally understand where you are coming from...being 14 and probably work like a slave and doesn't make much...

I probably would have to agree with med/low Burton gears is probably better than many other companies, hence they charge slightly more. But med/high end gears burton over charges by way too much yet performance wise, they are about the same as other companies.
__________Eric__________
05/06 - Arbor A-Frame (62)
03/04 - Ride Flight Migs
03/04 - Salomon F24

04/05 - Salomon Era (58)

06/07 - Ride DH (55)
06/07 - Ride Beta
06/07 - DC Judge
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#24
asd Wrote:trader97,jjyank,jam*wil - looks for highend performance and less cost. likes aluminum, 18 or so with jobs and money.

I'm 17, and I have a pretty steady job...two to be exact. I don't see the problem of looking for high end performance that costs less...seriously, high end performance is not that expensive if you know where to look.

Its quite simple actually. So your 14 and you don't have a lot of cash. So what? You're going to sacrifice quality? You can get top of the line equipment for just as much as mid-level Burton gear if you look in the right places. Check ebay. Check local shops and online shops for last year's leftovers. You can get a brand new top of the line board real cheap if its an 04-05 season left over.

Buy boards at the end of the season when shops start putting up clearance sales. Ask your parents to help you out. Even buy a board thats slightly used. As long as there are no major dinks and scratches in it, theres nothing to worry about.

I mean seriously, my top of the line freestyle board was under $400, brand new, and its an 06 board. You can easily get something cheaper if you back to last year's stuff and go to the right company. You'd probably be better off than mid-level Burton stuff in my opinion.

As far as those conversations go...I can't stick up for the Ride EXs and LXs because I don't have much experience with them. But again, go get an 04-05 Ride SPI or Tomcat. It'll beat the hell out of 06 Burton Missions. Hell even an 05-06 SPi is only $200.

I'd take Burton boards over most Ride boards though, I'll give you that. Except for the Timeless, because thats about $160 cheaper than its T6 rival (or $400 cheaper than the Burton Vapor).

Example: Here is a top of the line freestyle board: http://www.eternalsnow.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BDCPDE
Only $275, not bad.
Another top of the line freestyle board: http://www.eternalsnow.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BDOPJM
Only $295. Not bad either. This is just an example of 2 boards from one site. Look around, you might be suprised. Both of those boards are brand new, never before ridden.

http://www.eternalsnow.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT32LA
Top of the line all mountain freestyle boots. Only $110. Considering I payed $260 for my freestyle boots, thats a damn good price.

Moral of the story: Don't limit yourself to mid-level gear just because of price. There's always a way around it if you know where to find it.
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#25
Im probably not going to get a Burton board, just bindings. And I am deffinatly not going to pay retail price for anything. I got my Burton Freestyles for $80 bucks last year at the end of the year clearence.Big Grin
Eternalsnow has hella cheap prices so I will probably get a board from there.

glad we finally agree on something

jjyank Wrote:Its quite simple actually. So your 14 and you don't have a lot of cash. So what? You're going to sacrifice quality?
yeah probably. I will have a hard time saving about $450 dollars over the summer.(probably not even that much unless I find a job) $450 will not get me top of the line equipment (maybe one of those boards of eternal snow) but then only $150 left for bindings. I really like the Missions so I'll probably go with those.
We stand sideways. We sleep on floors. We get up early and go to sleep late. We've been mocked. We've been turned away by cops that won't have us. We are relentless. We dream it, we make it, we break it, we fix it. We create. We destroy. We wreck ourselves day in and day out and yet we stomp that one trick or find that one line that keeps us coming back.We progress. WE SNOWBOARD
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#26
asd Wrote:Im probably not going to get a Burton board, just bindings. And I am deffinatly not going to pay retail price for anything. I got my Burton Freestyles for $80 bucks last year at the end of the year clearence.Big Grin
Eternalsnow has hella cheap prices so I will probably get a board from there.

glad we finally agree on something


yeah probably. I will have a hard time saving about $450 dollars over the summer.(probably not even that much unless I find a job) $450 will not get me top of the line equipment (maybe one of those boards of eternal snow) but then only $150 left for bindings. I really like the Missions so I'll probably go with those.

You could always try package deals at places like the-house.com, surftheearthsnowboards.com or locals shops too. I know my local shop has deals where the sell brand new left over boards, boots and bindings together for like $400, give or take a little depending on the quality.
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jjyank Wrote:You could always try package deals at places like the-house.com, surftheearthsnowboards.com or locals shops too. I know my local shop has deals where the sell brand new left over boards, boots and bindings together for like $400, give or take a little depending on the quality.

yeah, but the package deals have boots, and i already have boots. my shop doesn't have package deals w.o boots.

and i want the missions.
We stand sideways. We sleep on floors. We get up early and go to sleep late. We've been mocked. We've been turned away by cops that won't have us. We are relentless. We dream it, we make it, we break it, we fix it. We create. We destroy. We wreck ourselves day in and day out and yet we stomp that one trick or find that one line that keeps us coming back.We progress. WE SNOWBOARD
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#28
Does anybody remember the quality issues Ride had several years ago? I do.

The technology nowadays is stale. There is only so much you can do to a strap binding. Buy American or learn to speak chinese.
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#29
pinheadg33 Wrote:Does anybody remember the quality issues Ride had several years ago? I do.
You do know time changes right? do you remember Mazda was about to go bankrupted back in 99? now they right in the mist of things...

Quote:The technology nowadays is stale. There is only so much you can do to a strap binding. Buy American or learn to speak chinese.
Please do elaborate. are you saying you can do so much more with step in bindings? that technology on steps are much better? Buy american or learn to speak chinese? do elaborate this one too.
__________Eric__________
05/06 - Arbor A-Frame (62)
03/04 - Ride Flight Migs
03/04 - Salomon F24

04/05 - Salomon Era (58)

06/07 - Ride DH (55)
06/07 - Ride Beta
06/07 - DC Judge
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#30
Bad post - buh bye! Angel
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