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the woman who had her 16th baby
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I'm sure a lot of you have heard of the Duggar family - here is an opinion piece about them that I thought was pretty funny:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...101905.DTL
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#2
.... 16?!


How can you suport a family that size? seriously.... even buying a set of cloths of each of them, be lookin at like $1000..
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I don't know how they do it - they're debt free and don't use govt assistance. There was a documentary about them on the Disover channel - I missed it though.
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#4
Yeah, we were talking about that in Health class the other day. Amazing...and apparently she still wants more? Jesus. How do they do it? I couldn't even remember all the names haha.
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jjyank Wrote:Yeah, we were talking about that in Health class the other day. Amazing...and apparently she still wants more? Jesus. How do they do it? I couldn't even remember all the names haha.

they all start with J apparently!
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actionwoman Wrote:they all start with J apparently!

Haha wow thats even weirder. So all the kids have the same initials? What are these parents on?
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#7
i don't understand her hair.

or her, actually.


i hope they realize that maybe god's sitting up there in heaven saying "NO MORE KIDS! NO MORE!! NO MORE!!" but he can't do anything because they just keep humping each other. it's a possibility; god helps those who help themselves, right? but what if god isnt helping you, and you end up just doing it all yourself...
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#8
and that means what? you believe they have to many kids? if they can care for them and they can meet their needs there is nothing wrong with it, unless you believe that women who become mothers are stupid.
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rage Wrote:and that means what? you believe they have to many kids? if they can care for them and they can meet their needs there is nothing wrong with it, unless you believe that women who become mothers are stupid.


YES, i believe they have too many kids. i don't think that people with 16kids, even if they can care for them economically, can give them all of the individual emotional attention kids need.

the whole "god" thing i brought up was in response to a comment in the article, about if god wants to bless them with another child...blah blah blah...
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#10
You believe that they cannot offer them the emotional attention required, I wont argue there but we cant judge that because we dont know, they might be able to and if they can it is not our business to say "well you've had to many kids time to get one of you fixed." That is done in communist china and the soviet union but should not be done in the USA. The greatest part of America is that we can live how we want within certain boundaries of course. If they had 16 kids great and I hope their happy but that is not for me, its not like their saying everyone should have that many kids.
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#11
i don't think we should have them fixed, that's ridiculous to even imply...it's human nature to want to reproduce and have kids, and maybe the rest of society is going against biology in having an average of let's say 2-3kids. the fact is that the behavior of the human race isn't entirely based on biology anymore; we don't act on the majority of our biological instincts, the majority of our actions are determined by society and other people, not nature. therefore, the fact that these people are succumbing to the urge to have so many kids may be right and normal biologically and instinctually, it's just not realistic today, with the way humans have made the world for themselves.
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#12
Well I believe that we've ended on neutral ground, but I have one question; what do you mean its not realistic? That kinda confused me, maybe its just cause its a forum and not a face to face debate.

Good job by the way, getting me all worked up and, unwittingly, I believe got me to debate from a philosophical stand point! Tongue
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#13
Well I'm about halfway between Mike and Beky here. I think over population is becoming a problem, and people that have 16 kids, who will (we assume) will in turn have more kids...That's not helping for sure.

But as Mike said, its America. They can do it if they want, and I won't stop or discourage them. I just frown upon it and will never have more than 3 kids myself.
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hehe....college...hehe Smile
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first of all, i meant "today" in general, as opposed to the other centuries or other times when there was a totally different culture and structure to society (capitalism and such). also, it's just so against today's norms to have so many kids. i didn't really mean it about anything specific; just the way we run our society in the 20th/21st century.

second of all, i don't even look at it as an overpopulation issue. i mean, that family will contribute an large amount of people to the world all together, but it's still not a lot on a global, or even national, scale. i mean, they're not going to start a trend of 16-people families, so the overpopulation factor isn't a huge part of my point.
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