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back on the snow
#1
Hey all,

I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
spending much more time in the water, working
at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?

Anyway, I'm starting a little side project - my own
snowboard company:

Rise Snowboards Inc.
Vermont, USA
2008 - Prototype
2009 - Production
- Take the high road! -

I have contacts at Burton going way back, know
Hayes Bros. in VT, which also has a press, and
this is my brother's company:

[url]http://www.selectdesign.com[/url]

Clients include Burton, Cannondale, Timberland,
Ben & Jerry's, Pepsi, US Snowboarding, etc., etc.

So as you can see, I have the groundwork in
place. I'm still doing my regular freelance work,
I'm just getting started on this. Not sure how far
it will go, but I'll have t-shirts and stickers this
year, and will at least build my prototype:

Rise Arise - 162cm, directional, wood core,
"step cap", top notch sintered base, wrap around
edges, maybe some kevlar or other lightweight
materials, titanuim???? More specs available.

There will also be the ladies' board:

Rise Rose - 144cm, etc.

I have logos, etc.

Just thought I'd throw this out in case anyone
has suggestions, comments etc. I'll probably
just give a couple boards to friends, who rip
in park and freeride and see where it goes from
there. This group has always been great, and
I've missed it the last few years.

Also, put up a bunch of links on my YouTube
page, including Mervin, TB 8 and other snowboard
trailers...enjoy!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNioEUwGvzs[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C0PCZ99k08[/url]

There's no sound on some of them for some
reason. Others, including a bunch of surf clips
on the site.

Anyway, thanks in advance for any advice. I hope
you're all getting ready for winter here in the No.
Hemisphere.

Cheers!

-jw
--
jsw's new england surf page
[url]http://the_urchin.home.comcast.net/index.html[/url]
surf photos - surf words - surf art - all new england!

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#2
In article <[email protected]>,
jw <[email protected]> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hey all,
>
> I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
> or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
> spending much more time in the water, working
> at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
> I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
> can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?[/color]

Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
to pot!!! ;-)

Anyway, would welcome feedback if anyone has it...

Thanks again,

-jw
--
rise snowboards inc.
vermont, usa
t-shirts and stickers - 2007
prototype - 2008
production - 2009
take the high road!
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#3
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw <[email protected]> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <[email protected]>,
> jw <[email protected]> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
>> or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
>> spending much more time in the water, working
>> at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
>> I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
>> can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?[/color]
>
>Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
>lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
>to pot!!! ;-)[/color]

Hey, it's that time of year. This place brightens up in the northern
winter, but some of us get bored with the weeners turning up and
asking question we were bored with in 1995.

Dave Roberts is still around, but posts under a different name now.
I'll leave it to him to introduce himself.
--
Champ
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#4
In article <[email protected]>,
Champ <[email protected]> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw <[email protected]> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > jw <[email protected]> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> I used to post here a lot from around 1995 - 2003,
> >> or thereabouts. I've still been snowboarding, but
> >> spending much more time in the water, working
> >> at my desk etc. Anyone still here from back then?
> >> I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
> >> can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?[/color]
> >
> >Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
> >lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
> >to pot!!! ;-)[/color]
>
> Hey, it's that time of year. This place brightens up in the northern
> winter, but some of us get bored with the weeners turning up and
> asking question we were bored with in 1995.
>
> Dave Roberts is still around, but posts under a different name now.
> I'll leave it to him to introduce himself.[/color]

Champ, remember you well. You ride a bike, too, right??? Dave, you were
always a big help. Glad you're keeping the faith.

Thanks,

-jw
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#5
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:52:30 GMT, jw <[email protected]>
allegedly wrote:
[color=blue]
> I know a bunch of the names, but I'm at work and
> can't remember off top of my head. Dave Roberts?[/color]

<waves>

I'm still around, just using a different posting name these days.

Hope I was nice to you. :-) I'm having problems trying to place you
though.

Good luck with the enterprise.

- Dave.

--
The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky.
[url]http://www.vpas.org.uk/[/url] - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow.
Donek Sasquatch 162, Prior Pow 181, Burton Canyon 162

The Snowboard FAQ lives here - [url]http://www.vpas.fsnet.co.uk/rssFAQ/[/url]
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#6
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw <[email protected]>
allegedly wrote:
[color=blue]
> Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
> lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
> to pot!!! ;-)[/color]

As Champ says, it's partly down to the season and this group being
primarily subsribed to by North Americans and Europeans.

However, the advent of cheesy web-based forums has for some reason meant
a migration of people. For the masses, the ability to pimp up your
avatar, include graphical signatures and graphical smileys means much
more than the pure speed afforded by usenet and killfiles from suitable
clients.

Plus, really, where's snowboarding going? The large technological
innovations of the 90s are complete, and now stuff's just being refined
to eek out that extra 0.001%. The rest is just marketing. With that,
there just doesn't seem to be the same breadth of topics to talk about.
We haven't even had a wacky concept to deride and laugh at for a while.

Come winter, we'll get the "is this board good for me" posts, which
can't be answered in the FAQ, and only get a discussion if a couple of
the regulars have tried it. Many posts go unanswered, not because we're
rude, but because the number of people reading has dropped, and out of
those, no-one's ridden the board being queried.

For me, I'm set with my gear, and haven't bothered trying a different
board for almost 2 seasons now. The last one being a Fish which I
borrowed off a mate for an hour. Hardly an exhaustive test though.

That's probably the most I've posted in ages! Wink

- Dave.

--
The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky.
[url]http://www.vpas.org.uk/[/url] - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow.
Donek Sasquatch 162, Prior Pow 181, Burton Canyon 162

The Snowboard FAQ lives here - [url]http://www.vpas.fsnet.co.uk/rssFAQ/[/url]
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#7

Switters wrote:[color=blue]
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:31 GMT, jw <[email protected]>
> allegedly wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Jeez, just checked the rest of the posts. Traffic has certainly
> > lightened up a bit here, eh??? I leave for a while and this place goes
> > to pot!!! ;-)[/color]
>
> As Champ says, it's partly down to the season and this group being
> primarily subsribed to by North Americans and Europeans.[/color]

I know, I want to go to NZ to surf and snowboard
one day.

You were never mean to me...I was probably mean
to a few people once or twice, but didn't really mean
it...Wink

I know you from when you were briefly on alt.surfing
as well (Foon is still there, Dave Blake, T. Keener,
Surfer Bob, and a bunch of others. But swort of like
here, traffic can go way down, in part due to as you
say Web-based forums, which can suck for the
reasons you stated, even though content can be
really good. It's just hugely inefficient compared with
Usenet. (Google aint that grewat either, and I use
a newsreader usually, just this when at my desk
sometimes). I think those of us who got on here
back in the day (me, 1996?) still use the news-
readers....no problem if people don't, whatever works
for ya.

I've been spending WAY more time in the water
the last ten years or so than snowboarding, but I still
have my ol' trusty Burton A.deck (in great shape considering
it's age.) I put probably 50 days on it when I worked
at Mount Snow (1995 - 1996). Then loaned it to my
brother who used it for a year or two (learned on it). I
still also have my 2004 Santa Cruz big mountain board -
I think it's called the W164. I'm only 5'9" and about
160lbs, but the board is really maneuverable, and
fast as sh*t.

Not sure I posted this earlier, but you can see the logos
here:

[url]http://the_urchin.home.comcast.net/photos/logos1.html[/url]

Me on the old A.deck:

[url]http://the_urchin.home.comcast.net/photos/snow.html[/url]

Not trying to promote any one company or anything, just
FYI.

Anyway, good to hear from you again, and others. I'll
read rest of your reply when I have more time...I'm on
deadline for work right now. Saving msgs. I don't get
to right away.

btw, I hope I can pull this snowboard thing off. Burton
is a client of my brother's co., etc. I'm just doing it in
my spare time as I also do my regular freelance work
to keep food on the table.

Talk to you later,

-jw
--
rise snowboards inc.
vermont usa
t-shirts and stickers - 2007
prototype - 2008
production - 2009

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#8
btw Dave et al., I was [email][email protected][/email] back then.
I used to remember that chick punk rock shred
grrl (actually know her, you out there, hope you're
doing well!). Other people too...

thx,

-jw

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#9
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:03:24 GMT, jw <[email protected]> allegedly
wrote:
[color=blue]
> You were never mean to me...I was probably mean
> to a few people once or twice, but didn't really mean
> it...Wink[/color]

There were quite a few flames... thinking back, they were quite amusing.
[color=blue]
> I know you from when you were briefly on alt.surfing
> as well (Foon is still there, Dave Blake, T. Keener,
> Surfer Bob, and a bunch of others.[/color]

Ha! Now that's a blast from the past. Talk about a volatile group, but it was
funny as hell. I've not been there for a very long time. Still surfing
though, just not so much.
[color=blue]
> I've been spending WAY more time in the water
> the last ten years or so than snowboarding, but I still
> have my ol' trusty Burton A.deck (in great shape considering[/color]

I'm suprised that thing hasn't rusted away. Must be 10 years old by now!

- Dave.

--
The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky.
[url]http://www.vpas.org.uk/[/url] - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow.
Donek Sasquatch 162, Prior Pow 181, Burton Canyon 162

The Snowboard FAQ lives here - [url]http://www.vpas.fsnet.co.uk/rssFAQ/[/url]
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#10
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:44:59 +0000 (UTC), Switters <[email protected]>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>However, the advent of cheesy web-based forums has for some reason meant
>a migration of people. For the masses, the ability to pimp up your
>avatar, include graphical signatures and graphical smileys means much
>more than the pure speed afforded by usenet and killfiles from suitable
>clients.[/color]

Web forums suck. LOL!

etc etc...
[color=blue]
>Plus, really, where's snowboarding going? The large technological
>innovations of the 90s are complete, and now stuff's just being refined
>to eek out that extra 0.001%. The rest is just marketing. With that,
>there just doesn't seem to be the same breadth of topics to talk about.
>We haven't even had a wacky concept to deride and laugh at for a while.[/color]

Yep, I think boarding has grown up! I've been on a couple of trips
with skiers or mixed groups recently, and it's completely unremarkable
- no one cares whether you're on one plank or two.
[color=blue]
>Come winter, we'll get the "is this board good for me" posts, which
>can't be answered in the FAQ, and only get a discussion if a couple of
>the regulars have tried it. Many posts go unanswered, not because we're
>rude, but because the number of people reading has dropped, and out of
>those, no-one's ridden the board being queried.
>
>For me, I'm set with my gear, and haven't bothered trying a different
>board for almost 2 seasons now. The last one being a Fish which I
>borrowed off a mate for an hour. Hardly an exhaustive test though.[/color]

Pretty much the same for me. I've got my gear, I know what I like, so
there's less stuff to talk about here. What would be useful would be
conversations on places to go, etc, but as most of the members of this
group are based in the US (and, it seems to me, most US riders just go
to their local hill), that's not so handy for a world wide
perspective. I use rec.skiiing.resorts.europe for a lot of that sort
of thing now.

--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk
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#11
In article <[email protected]>,
Champ <[email protected]> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Web forums suck. LOL![/color]

You're a Champ! haha.

Seriously I missed this place. I got so much knowledge from here way
back when. Thanks Dave et al. Keep the faith!!!

-jw
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#12
Bob F wrote:[color=blue]
>
> It'll get a lot busier here as the season starts in the north.[/color]

Eh, it never gets very busy. Web forums have almost 100% replaced rss.

Neil
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#13

"jw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected][color=blue]
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Champ <[email protected]> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Web forums suck. LOL![/color]
>
> You're a Champ! haha.
>
> Seriously I missed this place. I got so much knowledge from here way
> back when. Thanks Dave et al. Keep the faith!!![/color]

It'll get a lot busier here as the season starts in the north.

Inches of snow predicted tonight in the cascades.

Bob


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#14

Switters wrote:[color=blue]
> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:03:24 GMT, jw <[email protected]> allegedly
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> > You were never mean to me...I was probably mean
> > to a few people once or twice, but didn't really mean
> > it...Wink[/color]
>
> There were quite a few flames... thinking back, they were quite amusing.[/color]

Yeah, but as you know they can get old, esp. when
it's non-stop. I remember alt.skate-board before it
went to pot, so to speak...hey, I do that on occasion,
too, but can keep my head screwed on straight wehn
I do...haha.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > I know you from when you were briefly on alt.surfing
> > as well (Foon is still there, Dave Blake, T. Keener,
> > Surfer Bob, and a bunch of others.[/color]
>
> Ha! Now that's a blast from the past. Talk about a volatile group, but it was
> funny as hell. I've not been there for a very long time. Still surfing
> though, just not so much.[/color]

Still very volitile, but way less traffic. Sort of like here,
people moved onto SurferMag BB (eh...) and other Web
forums. All those animated smilies and crap really
bugged me at first and still do a little, but I've become
inured. I think we all agree, Web forums are at best,
a necessary (?) evil in the digital communication world.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > I've been spending WAY more time in the water
> > the last ten years or so than snowboarding, but I still
> > have my ol' trusty Burton A.deck (in great shape considering[/color]
>
> I'm suprised that thing hasn't rusted away. Must be 10 years old by now![/color]

Yeah, I take good care of my boards. In between the
A.deck
and the Santa Cruz, I was on an Burton SuperModel 162 --
great board -- and an Original Sin 152 something or other,
also pretty good. The fact that I've been on so few in between
is testament to my lack of time on the mountain. I've been
putting my $$$ into surfboards, wetsuits (need lots of them
in frigid New England in winter), and uh, beer? Wink

At Mount Snow, I tried friend's or demo'd Morrow T-Rex (Todd
Richards pro model), K2 Dart (cheap rental, but not bad); rode
Burton Twin 52 (my own until stolen over Christmas vacation :-(;
and a couple others, I forget. Again, not pitching any one
company, I like something about all the boards I've ridden
(almost...) but I don't like to rash someone's handiwork if it
appears they've put effort into it and care.

I really, really like the Santa Cruz -- the riding (I can get big air
off natural hits, carve super fast, top-notch construction, etc. --
it's a dream board for me). They make great skate decks, too.

I'd like to get one of the new Burton's this year...as usual, sick
stuff!

Pray for snow!

-jw

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#15

Champ wrote:

[color=blue]
> Pretty much the same for me. I've got my gear, I know what I like, so
> there's less stuff to talk about here. What would be useful would be
> conversations on places to go, etc, but as most of the members of this
> group are based in the US (and, it seems to me, most US riders just go
> to their local hill), that's not so handy for a world wide
> perspective. I use rec.skiiing.resorts.europe for a lot of that sort
> of thing now.[/color]

HEY! I already said I'm planning to go to New Zealand
to surf and snowboard..Smile

My brother went to college in Colo., and I used to go
out there on spring break. We usually went to Arapahoe
Basin (great mtn.), but also Breckinridge, Copper, and
one crazy week at Steamboat. While living in SF (1990 -
1995), I went up to Squaw Valley a few times. I want
to broaden my horizons. My father spent a lot of time
in Germany in the service and skied at Zermatt. He has
some very cool pix from there (Matterhorn, too, etc.). I
used to post here about my ultimate snowboarding
fantasy of snowboarding Mount Fuji on New Year's
Day at dawn...don't ask me why, just sounded good at
the time.

Amazing how stuff accumulates. For you young up and
comers, and I'm not one to lecture at all, just responding
to some queries: I have rarely been flowed any gear and
had to pay for travel out of my own pocket. I am far from
wealthy, but I worked my ass off and got a few good
breaks. Plan your snowboarding life carefully, have fun
and experience the world. Grab for the gold ring, as I
say. Don't let anyone tell you what to do, just go for it.
You'll never regret it and have stories and memories to
last forever.

(Stepping off podium now....lol).

-jw (un-pigeonhole-able, if ya know what I mean)

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